This weekend it is time to go into the field for the second time this year. The HF SSB Fieldday runs from saturday 13:00 UTC untill sunday 13:00 UTC.
Two days ago I started a discussion on the qrz.com forum because as a SWL I was not allowed in the qrz.com database.
Eyran 4X4-2238 said...
Congratulatin again :-))
and pls check your mailbox
73 Eyran 4X4-2238 .
Eyran Millis 4X4-2238 said...
Hello Dear Ellmar !
I did not read yet the thread at Qrz.com , a'will read it in the morning , but i can tell you that me and at least other 6 SWLs that i know , are in the Database !
I have no licence .... :-)) yet...
Now , i remember that when i tried at first time to register there , i was trying to use 4X4-2238 !
That was not allowed ! but when i tried 4X42238 it was ok...strange huh ?
On Dxwatch.com it is the same !
I Could'nt register there as 4X4-2238 and i am there as 4X4SWL...
errrr....well , i think SWLs should be on the databse !
We are sending QSLs excactly as licensed hams , and we are participating in contests so why not to be listed there ?
I will comment on your topic in the morning...
Do not worry Ellmar , many amateurs still likes us....heheh
73 , Eyran 4X4-2238 .
said...
Hello NL13289
I have the same problem that with imposible QRZ.COM to put my call SWL in the database, and it is really not normal! I consider as project of creates a Web site of database special SWL, it is not easy! hi Your site and really well cheer has you. Greeting 73"
F-59465 OP:Clément from France
said...
Re NL13289
If you succeeded has to put your call in database QRZ.COM to send to me an email and known as me how you succeeded has to do it.
Thank you 73"
F-59465
My Email: F-59465@live.fr
Elmar said...
Update:
The last days the discussion about The Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus (1B) has escalated on qrz.com by removing the account and info from Soyer, 1B1AB.
After complaints qrz.com has descided not to wait until UN and ITU has resolved the situation. So all the Radio Amateurs are welcom on qrz.com and will be listed.
That's a first good step in ham spirit!
said...
This is one subject that puzzles me for many years, I am sure DXCC panel must have a good reason before they include any entity to DXCC list.
Can anyone explain why Mount Athos (The peninsula of Holy Mountain Athos) in DXCC list, those who live there are monks living the monastic life. For children and women forbidden, only some men can pay visit to monastery with very special permission there is no residence other then monks yet it has a DXCC entity, same time has no prefix of they own announcement by any SV amateur SVXXXX/A MOUNT ATHOS good enough for DXCC !.
Since monks never gone become amateur radio operator why have DXCC entity?
YET HERE IS. TURKISH REPUBLIC OF NORTHERN CYPRUS (TRNC) WITHOUT DXCC ENTITY.
The Turkish Republic of North Cyprus (TRNC) was formed on 15th November 1983. It is a parliamentary democracy under the President.
It covers an area of 3.355 sq km and has a population of just over 256,000, predominantly Turkish-speaking though English widely used in the main cities and resorts. The currency is Turkish Lira, traffic drive on the right, laws are base on to English and Turkish code of laws, amateur radio prefix is 1B.
Because of the commercial importance of its geographical situation in the Mediterranan,the island of Cyprus has, throughout history, been subject to colonisation. It was accupied consecutively by Egyptians, Hittites, Phoenicians, Assyrians, Persians, Romanians, Byzantines, Lusignians, Venetians and, finally in 1571, Turks.
In 1878 the island was rented to Britain and in 1923, as part of the Peace Treaty of Lausanne, Turkey accepted the annexation of the island to Britain who, 1925. pronounced it a Crown Colony.
Greek Cypriots in Cyprus started agitating for the cessation of British governance in 1931. As a result of continuing violence, a Republic of Cyprus was created in August 1960; Britain, Greece and Turkey were guarantors of its independence.
From the outset, however, the Greek-dominated administration aspired to unite the whole island with neighbouring Greece, with the subsequent forced removal of Turkish Cypriots.
In 1974, after years of increasing oppression and violation of human rights of the Turkish population, the Turkish Government exercised its rights under the 1960 Treaty to despatch a military force to Cyprus to protect Turkish Cypriots.
The subsequent conflict resulted in a military stalemate, and in November 1983 the division of the island was formalised by the creation of the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus.
Attempts to reconcile differences and reunite island as a federation of two states have been made ever since, the latest initiative being the UN Annan Plan for reunification –In an island-wide referendum, however, 76% of Greek Cypriots rejected the Plan, while it was approved by 65% of Turkish Cypriots. Efforts to find a solution continues, without any encouragement from Greek part of the island, still 76% of Greek Cypriots opposing unity of North and South Cyprus.
73’s de 1B1AB Soyer Ecesoy
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FROM EI3IO,G3SDL
I'd like to discuss a few additional issues in respect of some of the information already provided. Firstly the DXCC list itself is a political list; just look at the principal requirements for DXCC status; UN recognition, ITU call-sign series or inclusion in (a) the U.S. Department of State's list of "Dependencies and Areas of Special Sovereignty" as having a local "Administrative Center," or (b) the United Nations list of "Non-Self-Governing Territories. Now what constitutes inclusion on the State Department's List, as TRNC would seem to qualify? - the politics and foreign policy of a powerful, important and sovereign nation.
Now lets look at this "illegal" call-sign prefix 1B. The ITU Radio Regulations (Article 19 and Appendix 42) do not provide for any call-sign which starts with the figure 0 or 1 or where a single letter followed by a figure forms the national identifier; in this case the second character is never 0 or 1. There is therefore a clear problem for 1B BUT now lets consider some call-signs which we know and love, which are also a problem but no one raises even a whisper of concern about them. 1A - a DXCC entity listed as an unofficial call-sign in the DXCC list - note in this case the word 'illegal' or 'unauthorised' call-sign is not used. Then there is S0 another disputed territory but not as disputed as TRNC; again it is not using a call-sign series conforming to the Radio Regulations of the ITU. S0 is also listed as an unofficial call-sign in the DXCC list. So are some of us not being just a little hypocritical when complaining about the use of 1B by TRNC as an illegal call-sign?
In terms of problems of recognition TRNC has similar problems to Kosovo, Palestine, Taiwan and Western Sahara. In amateur circles we've already seen stirrings of discontent with the disputed (by some) independence of Kosovo in recent times. However in the case of TRNC, no one can dispute that the United Nations Security Council issued two resolutions (541 and 550) proclaiming that the Turkish Cypriot declaration of independence was illegal and requested that no other sovereign state should recognise the legality of the declaration and asked for its withdrawal.
So once we get into the world of politics and human relations things get blurred. Let us accept there are always international political problems in the World, whether its the politicisation of Antartica, who owns the Falklands/Malvinas, whether Macedonia should have a new name or whether the British Isles should be called the Western European Isles.
I for one wish the 1B licensees well - I understand that they are operating under difficult conditions but they are operating in accordance with the regulations of the State in which they live. I do not think that any person living in any of the disputed territories around the World should be denied the fun and enjoyment of operating an amateur radio station. I also understand the deep rooted problems between the two Cypriot communities but these need to be solved in an appropriate way through negotiation, NOT by invoking emotive statements in amateur radio news groups and email lists.
Best 73s to all
Dave EI3IO, G3SDL
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